Why weights are so important

The facts on weights

 

Points of interest:
The term "Carrying Weight" is different to "Cargo Capacity"

When it comes to how much stuff you can take away on holiday the confusion between these two terms can make up to a 250kg difference.

29th March 2011

 

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Helpful pointers


For Tare weights there is nothing more definitive than seeing the 5th wheel being weighed at a certified weigh bridge.  It is a simple exercise so just ask the owner or dealer to take you to a weigh bridge when you go for your test drive. All you need to do is park the whole unit on the weigh bridge with the front legs down with it detached from the ute.

 

 


 

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All our Road Glide and Free Spirit models are built in NZ for NZ rules and conditions.  We build them with the door on the correct side (curb-side) as do all NZ manufacturers of caravans, motorhomes etc.  There are the obvious safety and convenience advantages, as well as the not so obvious reasons such as left door units retain their value better.  You may not care what side the door is on, but the next person you try to sell it to maybe will.

 

 

 

The correct width is very important.  An imported 5th wheel that is 8 foot (2.46m) wide is in fact over 2.5m.  This is because the wheel arches, awnings etc are all included in the width by the NZTA.  So by being over 2.5m you are over width and will have special conditions and inconveniences to meet. You are also wider than what NZ roads are designed for.

Our 5th wheels are all 7'6" wide and fit well within the 2.5m legal width with all things fitted. 

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Terms for weights & what they mean

For the following example we have used our Road Glide Panache model. Please note that all 5th wheel weights are from certified NZ weigh bridges and all appliances and parts are from those stated by the manufacturer.

There are a number of different terms used to describe different weight ratios and unfortunately with the added use of some USA terms it has become somewhat confusing for the buyer when trying to calculate correct weights For example: The NZ made Panache in the following state (pictured below) would be referred to by USA manufacturers as:

- UVW (unladed vehicle weight)

- Dry weight

- Shipping weight

NZ manufacturers do not use the above measurement as we are required to supply a Tare weight.  However, the Panache when weighed in this state is:

 

2385kg

 



The standard NZ practice is to use a Tare weight instead...

The picture below shows the Panche with the additional items that are included for a Tare weight. 

The Tare weight is important as it includes all of the things that are always in the 5th wheel to make it livable. These are usually items that are attached to the unit and that is why we always use a Tare weight. They do not include personal items for yourself or to kit your unit out.

The Panache Tare weight is 2580kg. The items that make up the difference have a total weight of 195kg for the Panache.

If you added an A/C unit that amount would be 65kg more so the Tare would now be 2645kg.

 



How these weights affect cargo capacity

    All 5th wheels that are to be towed by a WoF ute such as a Navara, Ranger, Hilux, Colorado, Landcruiser, Patrol etc must have a manufacturers GVM of 3500kg or less. The GVM is the maximum weight the manufacturer says the 5th wheel can weigh when towing. The GVM (gross vehicle mass) is often also called the GTM (gross trailer mass) the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) or the Gross Weight.

     

    The Panache has a manufacturers GVM of:

    3480kg

     

    So if you were to be going on a decent length "freedom camping" holiday you would want to fill up the fresh water tank with water. The Panache has a huge 280L fresh tank, which when filled adds 280kg to the weight of the unit.

     

    Using the Panaches Tare weight we can now add the weight of the fresh water:

     

                              2580kg (Tare)    +    280kg (water)    =    2860kg   

     

    As the Panache has a GVM of 3480kg we can subtract the weight of the unit with fresh water and arrive at the cargo capacity for food, clothes, camping equipment etc.

     

    3480kg (GTM)    -    2860kg (Panache with full fresh tank)    =     620kg (Cargo)

     

    We always like to ask our happy Road Glide owners what they find useful to take away and how much weight in cargo they take when holidaying or full-timing. Many go over weigh bridges for their own personal interest, so through feedback we have a very good knowledge on what sort of weights are being carried.

    A Short holiday of 10-20 days requires 200-300kg of cargo

    A longer holiday or full-timing requires 400-500kg of cargo

    This may seem like a lot, but by the time you include:

             - Any optional extras such as solar, outside bbq etc

             - Fridge/freezer full of food

            - Soft drink, wine, beer etc

            - Fruit, veges, canned foods etc

            - Clothes, shoes, toiletries

            - Tools

            - Generator & extra fuel

            - Bikes, kayaks, inflatable boats etc

            - Black water (sewer)

            - The list is really endless       

Comparisons for available models in NZ

Below is a table that shows a comparison of GVMs, Tares and Cargo Capacities for three of our models compared to some other "Light Weight" (WoF) registered 5th Wheels travelling on our NZ roads.

NB: For comparison purposes we have allowed 150litres of Fresh Water therefore the remaining Cargo Capacity is for Personal Goods and optional extras. We have also put in a UVW/Dry weight in the table as it is an USA term that is often referred to/advertised, even though the 5th Wheel would basically be impractical to use in the UVW/Dry state. The more extras that are fitted to your unit means, that the weight of those extras are deducted from your available cargo capacity.  

Make/Model
5th wheel
UVW/Dry
(add approx 200kg for tare weight)
Tare
(includes standard features awning, spare, gas etc)
GVM
As advertised by the manufacturer or importer
Cargo Capacity remaining with 150L of fresh water Legal Width Door on NZ side
Panache
(8.5m)
2380kg 2580kg 3480kg 750kg Yes Yes
248RLS
(7.8m)
2100kg 2300kg 3300kg 850kg Yes Yes
Free Spirit
(7.1m)
1980kg 2180kg 3080kg 750kg Yes Yes
A
(8.2m)
2200kg 2400kg 3200kg 650kg Yes Yes
B
(7.6m)
2700kg 2900kg 3490kg 440kg Yes Yes
C
(9.1m)
2850kg 3050kg 3490kg 290kg Yes Yes
D
(8.0m)
2850kg 3050kg 3493kg 293kg No No
E
(8.3m)
2900kg 3100kg 3493kg 243kg No No
F
(Manufacturer
states - 8.6m
Importer
states - 8.0m)
3130kg 3330kg 3500kg
(5339kg is the manufacturers GVWR)
20kg No No

As you can see from the above table the GVM stated by the manufacturer or importer can have far reaching implications, as this in turn, with the Tare deducted from the GVM determines how much cargo capacity is available to allow you to travel legally on a WoF. The bottom line is if you exceed the GVM by loading up your 5th Wheel with too many extras and too much cargo you are then towing an illegal vehicle. It is up to you as the owner to ensure that you do not exceed the GVM limit of your 5th Wheel. For some models by adding optional extras such as solar, extra batteries, air conditioning etc you can easily exceed the GVM with no cargo.  The lighter a 5th wheel is the less fuel you will use to tow it, the faster you will be able to travel up hills and passes and the less stress will be put on the tow vehicle.

 

 

 

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